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"My struggles came in because what I wanted to build and what I wanted to do was fairly futuristic at that time. I wanted to build augmented reality search engines, and I named my company WIS, Wisdom Age Metaverse. This was before anyone even knew what a metaverse was. I struggled with the size of my ideas, and I don't think people understood what I was trying to do. I had to put everything off into the future, start with the very first basic steps, and convince people to give me money as a woman in tech, and just start piece by piece. I think sometimes you have to believe in yourself because there are a lot of people who don't believe or don't understand. For all of the people out there listening, that's really all you need: belief in yourself. If you're doing something new, there is no precedence to stand on, so you have to be okay with that. If you're going to be a pioneer, you better be okay with that."