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"I believe in synchronicity, so this is a story of synchronicity. I was living in England, in Wimbledon, and I was just starting my psychotherapeutic journey. I was late taking the tube up to Regent College. I showed up in my class, and everybody else had chosen the books to present. There were about 30 of us, and I got a book nobody else wanted to touch, which was Ken Wilber's Spectrum of Consciousness, and that changed my life. I loved this book. I loved Ken Wilber's thinking. I did my dissertation on him. I wound up really feeling like transpersonal psychology was real, and what was possible just went, my mind just really expanded. I got to tell him this story in person once, and it was just so fun that this found me. It was something that found me versus me finding it."