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"Then Desert Storm happened, and all the phones stopped ringing. Adversity, right? We got one phone call a month because everybody stopped buying. I moved it all back into my house from the 1,500-square-foot studio. I remember when my brother said, what are you doing out here in Arizona, in the middle of nowhere? Come home to Detroit, work on some big things. I said, this is my dream, this is my dream, I can't stop it. After I really made that commitment, that that was my dream within myself, then it started changing. Like I said, these outside influences come to you and pull you and fill a niche in the world."