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I was called to ministry, to serve as a minister, and I was the most resistant and reluctant before I even responded to my inner calling. People kept asking me if I'm going to be a minister, and it was offensive to me. I was too cool to be considered a minister. So when I eventually answered the call and went to seminary, I even tried to persuade them not to let me in by telling them, I don't want a church. I don't see myself in a pulpit. I don't know why this is coming to me. And they let me in anyway. I'm really glad they did because it's being in that environment that I was able to hone my craft more. When I was ready for ordination and people kept asking me what I was going to do, I kept saying, I don't know. It doesn't exist yet. It's going to be unorthodox. And interestingly enough, that's kind of what happened.