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Then in the 70s, I heard about a medium that channeled Mary, and I went to them and I said, you know, I was all like, 'Oh my gosh, I hear this voice, and is it real?' And she helped me. So I found mentors. I found teachers that said, 'Yes, it is real. You have a gift.' And I am so blessed. They saved my life. And I was really led to these wonderful teachers, a lot of them really old women who were part of different mystery schools that were hidden. And so I was able to study. So it is taking therapy, of which I was mentored by the late Dr. Lwanda Stainberg, who was the first woman to get a PhD in psychiatry from USC. She trained in Switzerland at the Jungian Institute and in Paris, and she was my mentor for 15 years. We both, in conversation, she agreed towards the end of her life. She said, you are correct, therapy can only take us so far because it is the mind. The mind can only heal itself so much. Then something else has to come in, that is the divine.