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At the behest of my mother and a friend of the family named Lisa, I went. It was the Guidance Church of Religious Science in Los Angeles. The founder was Dr. Daniel Morgan. I was about 23 or 24 at this time. I walked in and he was speaking. He said, Heaven and hell aren't necessarily places, they're states of consciousness. I said, he's right. I sat down and said, wow, they really are speaking truth in metaphysical churches because this is all the stuff I'm learning on the other side, and it's giving me language for my experience. That was a Sunday. He was teaching a class on Monday nights. The next day I showed up in his class and he asked me my name. I said, Michael Beckwith. He said, well, Mr. Beckwith, this is a 15 week class. You've walked in on the seventh week. I advise you to leave, and when we start the class over, you may come from the beginning. I said, with all due respect, Dr. Dan, I'm going to stay. I get licensed as a spiritual therapist. I'm doing workshops and seminars, and ultimately I go to the university, I go to the school of ministry.