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I went in there as a Protestant fundamentalist physics major, Mr. Science Guy. I had had out-of-body experience. I was ego disintegration. I was flying around the universe meeting up with discorporate entities, and this was quite a lot. And I was exploring states of bliss that were unimaginable and unspeakable. They weren't language. And then the door was open and there's 10 people standing there. Of course, Joe is worried, like, oh, is he okay? And so I come out, and Joe starts interviewing me, like, well, what did you do? So I started telling things that had happened, and Paul Gorman would say, oh, that's a meditation experience. And so I mean, I knew the word meditation. I could spell it, but I had no idea what it was. I'd certainly never done it. I'd never wanted to do it, Mr. Science Guy. So I was so high that for three days I walked around and my feet didn't touch the ground. I was still out of body. At the end, Ralph folds his hands and he leans forward, and a little twinkle in his eye, he says, we could do that here. Oh, it was a download. And I had not a job, not a profession, not a career. I had a vocation. And the vocation was to make this available to as many people as possible all around the planet.