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"It's always that chase. It's always like, hey, maybe this isn't right. I have to go find and work for somebody that does understand what is right and wrong. Because there are a lot of people that do this for a living, and not all of them are able to do it at that level. I think it's just finding those people to work with and work for, which we did a good job. We moved around a lot trying to chase that."