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I wrote myself a letter as though I was 85 and it was saying it made me think about was I brave enough to tell the stories I want to say? Did I actually keep hiding behind my own insecurities and my thoughts? Or did I seize this beautiful, precious life that we get in all that space and time? Come on. Like, get over yourself. Like, say what you want to say. That sort of stayed with me, I guess.

I think it's just a surrendering. It's that's probably my word is you just got to surrender to it and then you find it if you're striving too much. I think it's not there. It's it's when you're willing to actually surrender and open yourself up. That's when the magic starts to happen. And we were all scared of doing that. Sometimes we've built a society where we want to have control and clutch and know what's happening next, but that's not where the magic lies. The magic lies in letting all that go and just going, well, staying open. Let's see who I meet. Let's see what comes in. And I've certainly experienced that firsthand. Like extraordinary moments where you think, my God, I never could have even imagined that was going to happen. And that's because I just trusted the process. So that's my experience is going to be different for everyone. But it's a lot around letting go.

I think when especially when you're focusing on things that are bigger than any of us, that provides a shield almost, it's not about me.So my ego gets out the way. It's like, no, no, there's a there's a bigger story to tell and just let it come through you and just let it out and just keep going.